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Air France / KLM Virtual Airlines Forums | AFVA Operations | KLM 747 Routes Mistake...
AFV291
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Basingstoke, United Kingdom

1,242 legs, 4,107.6 hours
4 legs, 8.7 hours online
1,241 legs, 4,105.4 hours ACARS
Posted onPost created on December 18 2011 05:51 ET by Klaus Legrand
Hi all,

I noticed some strange things on KLM 747 routes network as you can see the screenshot all 747 routes are for 747-200 !
Why we can see this ?
AFV397
Captain, A350-900

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Cherthala, Kerala India

752 legs, 2,398.6 hours
728 legs, 2,299.0 hours online
748 legs, 2,386.7 hours ACARS
2 legs, 14.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on December 18 2011 06:33 ET by Cyriac Jose
Something's wrong.. KLM retired all their 747-200s...
AFV313
Senior Captain, B737-800

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Howick, KwaZulu-Natal ZA

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1,901 legs, 5,926.6 hours online
2,853 legs, 9,199.0 hours ACARS
58 legs, 272.0 hours event
350 legs dispatched, 155.5 hours
Posted onPost created on December 18 2011 08:15 ET by Robert Armstrong
I remember Roger telling me that routes that are entered as a 747-400C (the Combi) show up as a 742 and as far as I know KL still operate the Combi. This may be the reason.
AFV230
Senior Captain, A380-800
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"Every Drop Shapes The Stone"
Georgetown, TX

6,141 legs, 16,455.0 hours
614 legs, 1,045.2 hours online
5,369 legs, 13,981.5 hours ACARS
42 legs, 241.5 hours event
6,427 legs, 17,292.5 hours total
366 legs dispatched, 328.7 hours
Posted onPost created on December 18 2011 08:22 ET by Brian Hankey
Any 747 type of 742, 747, 74C, 74M, 74X will show up in the schedule as a 747-200.


AFV493
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1,189 legs, 2,352.1 hours
343 legs, 538.6 hours online
1,189 legs, 2,352.1 hours ACARS
2 legs, 4.1 hours event
318 legs dispatched, 179.0 hours
Posted onPost created on December 18 2011 15:08 ET by Roger Taylor
Generally If a 747-200 is shown in our schedule (AFVA/DVA) and is NOT a Historical Route, it denotes a 747-400Combi (74E internationally accepted Timetable Code) So the above routes shown will be operated by 747-400Combi's which if your insure of what they are they carry Cargo Pallets on the main PAX Deck, and have a SCD (Side Cargo Door) at the rear. They are merely separated by a movable Wall. I flew AMS-LAX-AMS back in 2008 with KLM on a Combi and I sat in the rear row of seats next to the wall...

HTH



AFV230
Senior Captain, A380-800
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"Every Drop Shapes The Stone"
Georgetown, TX

6,141 legs, 16,455.0 hours
614 legs, 1,045.2 hours online
5,369 legs, 13,981.5 hours ACARS
42 legs, 241.5 hours event
6,427 legs, 17,292.5 hours total
366 legs dispatched, 328.7 hours
Posted onPost created on December 27 2011 09:54 ET by Brian Hankey
I have updated the aircraft database to correctly show aircraft type. I added a 747-200F as well as moved the Combi to the 747-400. If the model is not known, i.e. the feed shows 747 instead of 74X, 74E etc... then it will default to the 747-400.

HTH smile





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